
This picture of the different configurations in which Jack could’ve fit on the plank Rose rested on at the end of Titanic has been going around Tumblr (I’m not sure the original source) for almost a year now, and Mythbusters finally got around to investigating on last night’s show. James Cameron addressed Jack-could’ve-fit gate himself last month, 
The Mythbusters boys and their goatees of absolute authority essentially confirmed James Cameron’s explanation.
It is plausible that Rose and Jack could have both stayed afloat on the board and survived hypothermia just long enough to be rescued — but only if they’d thought to tie Rose’s life jacket underneath the board to help with its buoyancy. Otherwise, the weight of both their bodies would have sunk the board low enough in the freezing water that they both would have died. Let’s break it down further:
• For the hypothermia tests, Cameron said Fifth Officer Harold Lowe, who rescues Rose in the film, began his search about 20 minutes after the ship sank and continued for about 45 minutes, according to survivors. Since Rose is one of the last people to be rescued in the film — the officer hears her whistle right as he’s about to give up — they decided 63 minutes is fair. To test whether a human could have survived that long in freezing conditions, Jamie built ThermoMan, a dummy with gelatin flesh and a water-heated copper cardiovascular system that was rigged to monitor body temperature. Once they had him at 98.6° F, they submerged him in 29° water and timed how long it took him to reach deadly hypothermia. They pronounced Jack dead at 51 minutes because his body temperature dropped to below 85° F, which means he would have experienced loss of motor control and not been able to hold onto the board. So the movie had that right: Jack would have drowned.
In the second hypothermia test, ThermoMan was warmed back up to 98.6°, dressed in his wet clothes, and set hovering above the freezing water in 29° F air. Though the drop of body temperate drop was nearly identical, the difference was, when he reached the temperature that would cause him to become immobile, he was laying safely on top of the board. He wouldn’t have drowned. That bought him more time. As long as he was rescued before his body temperature dropped below 82° F, he could be revived. At 63 minutes, ThermoMan’s core body temp was 82.5° F. So technically, Rose would have been alive to be rescued.
As for whether the board could have supported both Jack and Rose for 63 minutes, Adam first did a small-scale test using dolls and a board made of the same wood used in the film. The board tipped immediately and started to sink. Point for Cameron. Next, “Jack Savage” and “Rose Hyneman” did a full-scale test in the water, scaling up the board’s buoyancy to adjust for their increased mass as stand-ins for the actors — and outfitting “Rose” with a period-accurate life jacket made with the same materials and buoyancy as the one Winslet wears in the movie. It took “Jack” multiple attempts to be able to climb aboard and stabilize the board. But it sunk low enough in the water that drowning after loss of motor control would have been a danger. That’s when they tied Rose’s life jacket underneath the board, which raised it enough that they could position 80 percent of their bodies out of the water while resting on the board without needing to hold on. They made it 63 minutes. “With all we’ve learned, I think Jack’s death was needless,” Hyneman concluded. So yes, it’s plausible that both Jack and Rose could have survived on the board if they’d MacGyvered her life jacket. [EntertainmentWeekly]
Of course they had to increase the board’s buoyancy to account for 2012 people’s mass as opposed to 1912 people’s. I blame the advent of the Taco Bell-introduced “fourth meal.” I’m told another adjustment they had to make was to give “Jack” and “Rose” iPhones in order to pass the time tweeting “trying not to drown, lol” and “the ocean is cold, smh” to keep from dying of boredom. I mean let’s be honest, 63 minutes is a long time to just sit there not being entertained.



Still waiting for an explanation why Rose didn’t pull an “Oh Billy” Midnight Express stunt as the boy suffered a slow horrible death. The least she coulda done. Just sayin’.
In a related story, “Jack Savage” and “Rosie Hymen” are the protagonists of my “Titanic” erotic fan-fic. *
*soon to be revised into the international best-seller “50 Shades of Lips Turning Blue”
I realize that the myth wasn’t busted, but this seems necessary.
Fuckin science…
I mean let’s be honest, 63 minutes is a long time to just sit there not being entertained.
Maybe the Mythbusters team can test that hypothesis by polling people who download the Frotcast. #yepthatsaburn
But can ThermoMan draw tits?
Draw me like your French ThermoGirls Jack.
I’d like to see them take on other James Cameron movie myths. Like how having a pony-tail that doubles as a data port *and* sex organ isn’t a good idea.
The moral of the story has always been: Never give your life for a chick that gives it up to you on the first date when she already has a boyfriend.
I agree. Jump in a life boat. “Rows before Hoes” if you will.
Did they account for the salt water, and would it have made a difference in the doors buoyancy?
quite significant effect on buoyancy in fact, and I hope for any sake of credibility, that the mythbusters team would have accounted for that.
What they forgot to mention was that Jack had a super-sub awaiting him just beneath the water, and made his getaway with no one the wiser.
Or that Jack knew that in a 100 years from now hes remains would be rescued, and he would be cloned by James Cameron himself in his submarine.
Small-scale tests in a vessel of salt water and full scale tests in San Francisco Bay. Which is salt water.
But wouldn’t she still have died while in the lifeboat?
They DID take into account the fight that the cardiovascular system would have put up to generate at least a teeny bit of body heat, right?
Yes, the rig they built included a heater from a fish tank that tried to keep the water at 98.6 despite being dunked into a pool of water at 29 (I think 29…they had the numbers all accurately).
I’d actually be interested to see a test on whether both or neither of them could have survived if they had taken turns on the plank. Because that always seemed like a pretty obvious thing to try.
Jack, being a product of his time, likely would have nothing of it. Had this happened in 2012, on the other hand…
No way. The body temp of a person on the raft alone was only barely above fatal and less than a degree above the point where muscle control is lost. So Rose could have survived because she was staying a little dry and when she basically lost muscle control, she was just laying on a raft (breathing). Jack died because when he hit that temp threshhold (much quicker), he stopped being able to hold on and sunk. Mythbusters’ idea is that you die of drowning because you can’t stay afloat before you die of freezing (organ failure) in that scenario.
The Moose: But Jack didn’t sink when he lost muscle control. His body either froze stiff or Rose was holding him up. Either way, he was above the water until the rescue boats came. And then she’s all, “I’ll never let go.” Then the bitch lets go. Based on what’s shown here, that’s what killed him.
I am wondering when this episode is supposed to air. The Episode I watched online said titanic survival but was all about tooth bullets and the best way to board an airplane
I watched it last night. Not sure when it aired (DVR).
I say, never give up your life for a chick who gets out of a lifeboat you put her in. Rose killed Jack! If she had just stayed in the lifeboat there would have been room for Jack on the plank.
Sounds like if she gave him her life jacket he would have been okay. He might not have been able to hold on to the plank, but he still would have been afloat.
This article struggles. Not only is it 90% quoted, it apparently didn’t read the quote. The episode (and this source article) both show that Jack didn’t have to die. Adding the bouyency from the life-vest to the raft made it able to carry both men for well over the requisite 63 minutes. So the doing the same wold have kept the movie pair afloat as well.
Yes, Jack would’ve lived if he was MacGyver. Jack wasn’t MacGyver.
The poster didn’t read to the end of the article …
Rose didn’t kill Jack. James Cameron did. If Jack had somehow been able to find a way to survive in the Ocean, James would have figured out some other way for Jack to die. Jack was a dead man the minute he and James met. You want someone to blame – that’s who you need to blame — no one else. You all know in your hearts I’m right.