Last night, Steven Spielberg and Joseph Gordon-Levitt introduced the trailer for Lincoln during a “Google+ Hangout,” which, from what I could tell, consisted of dorks trying to ask questions while Spielberg complained about the feedback and everyone standing around while the tech guys tried to troubleshoot. But the point was hype, and hype was built, and now we have a trailer. And what of the trailer? Well, it’s a little hard to focus on anything because there’s so many fades-to-black that I thought I had macular degeneration (Dad gummit, that trailer had more black than a Reconstruction-era southern legislature!). But one thing is for certain, it’s definitely going to have cheesy, overbearing string music. It’d be nice if we got a nuanced portrait of Lincoln as a generally-good guy who was nevertheless still probably pretty racist and colonialist in his thoughts like the vast majority of people of his day, who still managed to do some great things and be on the right side of history through a combination of integrity, strategic necessity, and clever politicking, but that sh*tty string music shouts “NOPE! You’re getting the same reductive, deified portrayal as a fourth-grade American history book, but with costumes and acting!” And Sally Field playing basically the same role she did in Forrest Gump. “Laaahfe is laahke a box of chocolates, Abraham. People is always fahghtin over the dark ones.”
Anyway, there’s a chance it could still be good, but that music is atrocious. I’m still hoping they implement commenter Jessolido’s notes, “Montage where he tries on a bunch of different hats before settling on the stovepipe or GTFO..”












whoa, tingles all over
It’s too bad to hear that DDL won’t be at the world premier after he was shot in the head during the wrap party. You can’t say that sumbitch wasn’t method.
“Besides that, how was the party Sally Fields?”
Team Leapin_Lizards-for-COTW
“Cheesy, overbearing, string music”. That’s John Williams your talking about. THE “Star Wars, Jaws, Indiana Jones, Superman, E.T., Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, Harry Potter” John Williams.
Oh, I’m well aware. Wouldn’t be a Spielberg trailer if it didn’t shout “LISTEN TO JOHN WILLIAMS’ SCORE! IT’S JOHN WILLIAMS! WRITING A SCORE! HEAR IT? CAN YOU HEAR JOHN WILLIAMS’ SCORE??”
Hans Zimmer is great too, but TDKR’s score was obnoxious and overbearing too. Sometimes you have to choose between making a movie and making an ad for your composer’s score.
Vince, what about making an ad for your composer scoring? Cause I’m almost positive Ice Cube did that for himself after “Friday” and you gotta agree, that’s aaaaaaalllllright.
You’re right there should have been dub-step. The bass drops the same time Lincoln does.
I would have preferred the music of that time: no music.
The good news is Cee Lo has a new song on the soundtrack so i’m in.
Vince, don’t you dare put Hans Zimmer on the same mortal plane as John Williams. Dude only has one trick and one mood.
Where was this at the beginning of Tropic Thunder?
Look, as long as Lincoln doesn’t inspire enemy soldiers to work together by getting his dumb ass stuck in some barbed wire, it’ll be a massive improvement in the cheesiness department.
I bet there’s a scene where Lincoln’s imprisoned but tricks the one inept guard.
There will be an inspiring-as-fuck scene where Mary Todd hitches Abe up to plow a field, and everybody’s all, Abe isn’t a plowhorse, he’s a race traitor.
Amistad 2: Emancipate Harder
Melodramatic, yes, but I still think I might give Lincoln a shot.
Said Mr. Booth.
Ok that was the “This is going to win an Oscar, old people go see it” trailer. Now I want the trailer to get all the kids to see it. Replace the Gettysburg address with Lincoln’s Lyceum Address and just show nothing but shots of the Civil War:
“At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?– Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!–All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.
At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”
“We will not go quietly into the night. We will not vanish without a fight. We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive. Today, we celebrate our Independence Day.”
followed by BOOM, Here comes the BOOM! Yeah I’m with it.
“TDKR’s score was obnoxious and overbearing too.” Thought it complemented the film very well.
I could tell what they were trying to do with it, but the ridiculously loud strings near the end were pretty heavy-handed. They had a purpose (things are bad! LOUD VIOLINS) but that doesn’t mean they weren’t too over the top.
My favorite part was when Abe took his own shoes off and gave them to Denzel so he could go off and fight. When Abe looked up after kneeling in the mud and tying the laces his own self, and he saw Morgan Freeman give him that silent nod of approval… Gave me chills, man.
“Yer changing those black boys LAHHHF”
Too bad Spielberg turned down my idea for the film. Lincoln was going to make the Gettysburg Address, see? But he has this stutter, see? So he hires this Limey voice coach to help him get over it, see? But–and here’s the twist, SS, baby–the voice coach is actually a Confederate spy sent by Jefferson Davis, and he brainwashes Lincoln so when he sees the Queen of Hearts playing card, he will change the speech and have the North surrender to the South, thereby changing the course of U.S. history. Only the heroic undercover agent, master of disguise John Wilkes Booth can save the Union by assassinating Lincoln before he can speak the fatal words! I call it…The Gettysburgian Candidate.
+1
This will be a side mission in the next Asassin’s Creed game.
I like the way you think Wrecks.
I doubt they’ll use my “Air Force One nod”-suggestion either; having Lincoln punch a dude off his Presidential railcar after saying “Get off my train!”.
Step in my office, Spielberg – YOU’RE FIRED!
GET ME HIS NON-UNION MEXICAN EQUIVALENT
…and Tommy Lee Jones as Leatherface.
Man + X = BT
BT – X = MAN
“Old White People Save Black People: THE MOVIE”
/this might be a remake
To call this film Oscar Bait would be like calling Tori Black a Sex Professional.
Either way, a lot of baiting going on in both cases.
That was so Spielbergian, it’s almost a self parody. And here i was thinking Steve might have done something different with this movie.
Yeah he really Burton’d the place up.
This movie freed the the black fade out.
What most people don’t know(You’re not the first to make this mistake Vince, believe me!), is that the overbearing string music you think is a score was actually occuring back then in real life. You see, back then things really mattered and were much more dramatic, plus everything was black and white back so the music kind of made up for that.
These days we all know we’re fucked and nobody really gives a shit. Everything’s been done so it’s much less dramatic. We just cling to our delusion life rafts with iphones, five-star restaurants, dirty money, bad movies, and blowjobs. No real purpose. A culture of bitches and bling.
>Four score and seven years ago, they had hope. Now we have corporate totalitarianism, a terminally ill planet, and Taylor Swift.
You know what’s really good though? Archer.
I choose now. If string music played so often in everyday life, imagine just how much of a pain in the ass it would be to take a dump.
If you ever list Taylor Swift in the negative column again I will fight you! “Gulliver’s Travels” was a masterpiece!
(rereads book cover)
Awwwww…man.
When the fuck is Spielberg making a live-action Terms of Enrampagement? DDL will go way method to play Pam.
Don’t worry, after they free the slaves all the string music turns to hip-hop.
AWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEEEEEEEEAAAA
(Fredrick Douglas played by Flava Flav)
It can’t truly be a Spielberg joint unless there’s a spiritual Latino.
Spielberg is going to fuck with us like Tarantino and surprise us with a twist ending, where JWB is stopped by a heroic horse and his crack Israeli revenge squad.
…where are the vampires?
Oh, good. I thought you were saying he definitely looks like a Spielberg. ‘Abraham Lincoln: Christ Hunter’ might not play well in the south.
I lived in the South for four years. “Abraham Lincoln: Anything After The Colon” is not going to play well in the South.
Yeah, lots of ‘em are still bitter.
Post-Civil War montage description:
‘Hirsute Yankee abolitionists be throwin’ their stovepipe hats up in the air n’ shit
followed by a wild kegger at Hannibal Hamlin’s dope-ass mansion.’
Hamlin must have been piiisssed when he got dumped for Andrew Johnson. Surprised he didn’t do the shooting himself.
Please please please get the guy who did that musical bit for Jurassic Park to fix this trailer.
Was everybody really that much wrinklier in the olden days?
At about the 1:13 mark, I really thought JGL was Heath Ledger, and I was like Damn, Spielberg really does have some casting connections.
But, I know how JGL feels, I get mistaken for Ledger all the time.
Holy shit, dude. Do you think, maybe…He can be Tim Drake and turn into the Joker? They look nearly identical.And of course, a little alteration of the story wouldn’t hurt…I mean no one can ever be our great Heath(peace be upon him), but..maybe he can be resurrected as… the new Joker??!!…Nyo my god
Over use of ‘fade to black’? I thought I was just nodding off during the trailer…
Historical accounts say that Lincoln was vehemently anit-slavery on a moral level, so the trailer does look accurate in that regard.
Tommy Lee Jones’ finest role since Two-Face.
Someone with skills should mash this with Django Unchained.
Are people really bad mouthing hans zimmer up in this bitch? Louis CK was right: everything is amazing and no one is happy.
As much as I love DDL and JGL, this does not look appealing to me at all. Looks like every fuckin bio pic ever, and I hate bio pics. With that said, each movie DDL is in could have the advertisement, “Greatest Actor Ever: Daniel Day Lewis”, and there probably wouldn’t be any complaints?
And all of the sudden, I don’t want to see this movie.
I always thought Lincoln would have a deeper voice. I can hardly tell it’s Daniel Day-Lewis. And there’s Adam from Girls…Credibility lost.