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This week on the Frotcast, in honor of President Obama telling us that we had to gay marry each other, we brought on Burnsy for a special, same-sex wedding edition of HOTT GOSS™, including our picks for who we would gay marry. SPOILER ALERT: It turns out John Travolta has monkey feet. Then we talk about Miley Cyrus’s wildly successful new film, LOL, and compare her actual voice to the voice you hear on her CDs, which, surprisingly, are wildly different. Later on, we bring on Laremy so that we can make fun of his morning show appearance, then talk Dark Shadows, The Avengers, Girls, trying not to turn into Peter Travers, and even get earnest-ish about politics before it all explodes in a hail of giggles. Jeez, that went downhill fast.
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Sooo, Vince is a separatist, not a supremacist.
I wasn’t arguing for separatism, I was only trying to point out that trying to change assholes into non-assholes can be sometimes more trouble than it’s worth as opposed to just moving somewhere less assholey. Not as a system, just as a personal choice. And of course that unfortunately doesn’t work when you’re a little kid and you don’t have self-determination. Sadly, it’s hard to get all that out when you get three words in and everyone jumps on you, and I admit it’s pretty much a retarded hypothetical anyway.
PROCEED.
That did sound a bit like a ‘separate but equal’ argument.
I’m sure there are plenty of gay people who want that magical piece of paper too.
And they should get it, I’m just saying, it’s still a magical piece of paper.
the “easy solution” of giving gay people the right to unionize civilly is a pretty good one, but it does bring up some problems down the road.
1) like mentioned on the ‘cast, you’re opening the door to potentially set gays back years. separate but equal lets gay haters go “look okay you got what you wanted” while not giving them true equality.
2) if you are religious and gay (which is apparently thing, dont ask me why) you are essentially being told by the government that they agree that their lifestyle is unacceptable in the eyes of god. kinda fucked.
im now realizing i may have mistaken your argument, and you could be in support of removing marriage as a government/legal idea altogether and having all civil partnerships be set up as a “civil union” and let those that want to have a religious component (marriage) just get that on their own.
i think that’s a fine solution, i just can’t imagine separatism being a solution that will last or “fix” the problem. the government needs to step up and say “fuck you, gay couples are cool with us _just_ like you hetero idiots” for their to be move towards progress. separatism will only continue to establish that gays are second (or at least “different”) class citizens.
my two cents
fart balls out
My basic point is, I’m all for gay marriage. Put that shit on the ballot tomorrow, I will vote for it (I would argue it’s a civil right and shouldn’t need to be voted on, but that’s another story).
At the same time, I recognize that a lot of people are intractably ignorant and I’m kind of sick of arguing with them, and I think there are bigger problems to worry about than whether gay people should get the same-sized cabin on the Titanic. It’s more a weariness than a policy suggestion.
Though I do like your second paragraph, that sounds dandy.
Is this Brett’s girlfriend?
So, whats up with the silence after Britanny Murphy says “I’ll never tell?”
Ah forget it. Technical issue. Why not edit it out though?
Ah forget it, I should read the description before hitting play.
My Skype was all like, “Nah bro.”
The last 5 minutes…straight cash homie.
Women become men to be with women. The men who become women also want to be with women. It’s like a 90% rule.
Don’t ask me
about Trinidad, Coloradohow I know this.No. About 40 to 50% of FTMs are attracted to women, 40 to 50% are bisexual, and 10% are attracted to men (I can’t remember the exact breakdown of straight vs. bi). At least that’s what a survey of over 1000 FTMs conducted through (I think) the University of Minnesota came up with.
Don’t know the stats for MTFs, but one things for sure: gender doesn’t determine sexual orientation for anybody, not for cisgender or for transgender people.
If I’m reading you correctly, attraction to men solely in that case is the 10% I would expect. I do understand my knowledge is purely anecdotal and your wisdom is to be respected.
Another thing I wonder is how the internet driven, chicks with dicks, trap phenomena has skewed what I used to know about what is now LGBTI. Old-timey sex change was part of a two gender world that is gone, gone gone.
I had this debate with my wife because she’s awesome: Could X-Men vs. Avengers ever make it on the big screen, or would that be too fan-boy?
Sounds fine to me as a story idea, but X-Men is Fox and Avengers is Disney.
Shame. That’d make Avatar money so long as it was produced under the Disney model.
“I’m just saying that when we die, there’s going to be a planet for the gays, a planet for the North Carolinians, and we’ll all be a lot happier.”
“Mr. Mancini, you’re upsetting me.”
“No I’m not”
…sorry for piling on, love ya Vince
It’s okay, I enjoyed the reference.
I just started the latest Frotcast and I have to say the Action News Team Assemble theme is much, MUCH better.
…as opposed to the “new” theme.
I cannot believe no one said they’d marry Jon Hamm.
He’s very upset
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I thought Burnsy said him. Someone else was talking at the time, maybe I misheard it. I’d pick Jon Hamm.
This is immediately one of my favorite Frotcasts. Really funny.
Man, you guys pussed out when talking about the “controversy” over Girls. I’m sure you’ve all read Lindys “hipster racism” piece and probably have some interesting thoughts about it (it is stupid and she was fishing for outrage to drive pageviews). Lets just chalk that up to your being too classy to trash someone when they contractually(!) can’t show up for a rebuttal.
I’m going to turn Vince’s laugh in to a ringtone. That shit makes me laugh harder than what he is laughing at. Frot-on!
Especially at the point where Laramie talks about the parallels between Brave and equality or something. I actually kept rewinding it a few times just to hear it again (looks around) shut up.