
I know, I know, I juuust got finished writing a post ripping on mainstream journalists for stirring up controversy, and here I am, stirring up controversy. Trust me, I have no desire to be the subject of Kevin Smith’s next 26 angry podcasts, but I thought this was interesting enough to share, and that’s what we do here between fart jokes, right?
Anyway, Smith was recently on Marc Maron’s podcast (LISTEN TO THE FROTCAST FIRST, DAMN YOU!), where he discussed, among other things, Cop Out. From the sound of it, working with Bruce Willis wasn’t the peach basket filled with ticklish kittens you might expect. In fact, to hear Smith tell it, it was a downright poop-covered porcupine bath. Full exchange is after the jump, but here’s the condensed version:
- Bruce Willis wouldn’t sit for the poster
- “Everyone knows who it is. Remember the really funny guy in the movie? It ain’t him.”
- “Were it not for Tracy, I might’ve killed myself or someone else in the making of that movie.”
- MARON: “Honestly, you were given the gift of not having to tell your dad that Bruce Willis was a d_ck.” SMITH: “I wish he could’ve just communicated it to me from the afterlife.”
Here’s the full exchange:
SMITH: [on why he took a lower salary to make Cop Out than he did for Dogma] “I needed to see marketing from the inside for some sh_t I got comin up.”
MARON: “I might make an argument that marketing of Cop Out diminished your ticket sales. That billboard was everywhere, and I gotta be honest with you, Kevin, I looked at that billboard and thought, ‘I’ve already seen that movie.”"
SMITH: “Yeah, of course. There was nothing about that poster that screamed, “holy sh_t, this is gonna be original.” But to be fair, nothing about it was. The whole movie is an homage picture. We just wanted to make an 80s cop movie. It had to look like something you had seen before. At least, that’s what I hoped they were thinking. Look, I know the real story. One guy wouldn’t even sit for a f__kin’ poster shoot.”
MARON: “You don’t want to mention names all of a sudden?”
SMITH: “Everyone knows who it is. Put it this way, remember the really funny guy in the movie? It ain’t him. He’s a f__king dream. Tracy Morgan, I would lay down in traffic for. Were it not for Tracy, I might’ve killed myself or someone else in the making of that movie.”
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MARON: “Honestly, you were given the gift of not having to tell your dad that Bruce Willis was a d_ck.”
SMITH: “I wish he could’ve just communicated it to me from the afterlife. It was difficult. I’ve never been involved in a situation like that where, one component is not in the box at all. It was f__kin soul crushing. I mean, a lot of people are gonna be like, ‘Oh, you’re just trying to blame the movie on him.’ No, but I had no f__king help from this dude whatsoever.”
MARON: “The sad part is, as a kid who grew up in New Jersey who loved Bruce Willis, and you get this big opportunity, and you get disappointed by your hero. And that’s probably something that you’re going to have to deal with again.”
SMITH: “No, but he changed everything for me though. Because now I’ll never meet anybody. That was it. I’d rather like people from a distance.”
Obviously, I’m sure there’s another side to this story. Maybe Bruce Willis just didn’t want to be near Kevin Smith’s stinky trenchcoat. Who knows? But I do like the idea of the ghost who dishes celebrity gossip.
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MARON: “I might make an argument that marketing of Cop Out diminished your ticket sales. That billboard was everywhere, and I gotta be honest with you, Kevin, I looked at that billboard and thought, ‘I’ve already seen that movie.”"

In another podcast Kevin Smith said (without naming names but you knew who he meant), that Willis was also refusing to stand on his mark in scenes. He’d just stand wherever the fuck he wanted and everyone else would just have to set up the shot and all the lights the way he wanted it in that scene.
Little known fact: Bruce Willis was the airline worker who wouldn’t let Kevin Smith board a plane recently.
Kevin was on Opie & Anthony back in Nov. 2010 said some similar stuff about a particular unnamed actor. [www.youtube.com] 2:36-6:07 He calls him a “Passionless Piece of Shit”
Smith has been a little disappointed with Willis ever since he found out Bruce wasn’t really dead in The Sixth Sense.
Um, spoiler alert, I guess.
Kevin Smith is as enjoyable to listen to as his films aren’t to watch. I want to like his stuff but it’s a perfectly inverse relationship.
True story, Bruce Willis is scared of Kevin Smithfield Ham and ham products.
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Was an awfully interesting interview. Regardless of the Cop Out discussion (which was fascinating), Kevin Smith is kind of infuriating. He can seem like the coolest dude in the world for a long stretch, knock that good-will out, then build it back up, over and over. Of course, a lot of that is me sitting here underemployed listening to him talk about how great it is to make a living doing whatever he wants. Even flops making “Kevin Smith money.” Like, obviously that’s great, but you could sugarcoat it a bit more for the less fortunate, dick! [Anyone listen to the Nerdist interview? Downloaded it but haven't listened yet.]
Bruce Willis also made Cop Out a hostile work environment by playing his music.
I want to hang out with Bruce Willis, not Kevin Smith.
Wouldn’t Kevin Smith have already worked with Willis on that last Die Hard by this point? I’m not IMDB’ing it nor am I accepting that Willis is a dick. (I mean, he’s gotta be, though right?)
Bruce was probably just sick to death of hearing how much Kevin loves to eat out his wife’s asshole.
And understandably so.
He makes lots of money on shitty movies.
Advantage: Kevin Smith
I can eat whatever I want and be able to fly on a plane.
Advantage: Jacktion!
Kevin Smith wants to make it clear that this doesn’t mean he would lay down both his Angus burgers to pull Tracy Morgan away from incoming traffic
Bruce Willis strides the earth like a mighty colossus while Ashton Kutcher raises his teenage daughters. I’d be more worried about getting off the set alive than him hitting his marks.
I really like Kevin Smith, but I looked at the banner photo and thought “Hey, it’s Kevin Ratner,” and damn, that ain’t right.
Demi Moore is finally vindicated. Every one of you should apologize to that soulless, rubber skinned bitch for not being the sole reason for breaking up their marriage.
The only way Bruce Willis could be more of a dick is if he drew a pee-hole on the top of his head.
You know what it is? Hair Imbalance Syndrome. Willis just felt like Smith was being a dick, teasing with his luxuriant and bristly beard.
So which one wouldn’t sit for the poster?
Hudson Hawwwwkward.
Kevin was the one who wouldn’t sit for the poster because he refused to pay for two seats.
Kevin Smith doesn’t so much sit for posters as he does slowly roll into frame, praying to god he comes to rest facing forward.
I get the feeling Kevin Smith whines a lot. ‘Soul crushing’? Really? More soul crushing than finding out you’re too fat for commercial flight?
You don’t hear Jason Mewes complaining about having to carry the dialogue in Mallrats and Clerks.
You gonna tell the guy who did a duet with Danny FREAKIN Aiello that he needs to stand on a mark? Motherfucker will unleash the Accelerators on your ass.
“I really should listen to this jorts-ensconced taint enthusiast.” – No one, ever
Hey, know what’s soul crushing? When a fat guy steps on your foot.
Didn’t Soul Crushing do that annoying song about a screenwriter and a weatherman?
Bruce: “I was equally shattered to find out that someone I had previously respected was just a whingeing fat fuck with no directorial skills whatsoever. Why should I have to hold his greasy fucking hand through every scene?”
Tracy: “Whatchoo talkin’ ’bout, Bruce Willis?”
NEW UP. (I didn’t put it at the top of the page, because I wanted this story at the top for a while longer…)
Confession here is I love Kevin Smith but I don’t always love his movies. I guess I can say the same for Wilis.
There’s a famous story Smith tells about working with Wilis on the last (crappy) Die Hard flick where he wants Smith to rewrite his scene himself to suit Smith. A producer tells him over the phone there’s no way that’s going to happen. Wilis takes the phone and calmly says, “Alright. Tell me this: Who is your second choice to play John McClane?… Uh huh? Ok.” Hangs up and then tells Smith to rewrite the scene.
I thought Man that’s badass. Smith too since he retold that story a lot. Shame to hear that Wilis is probably a pain to every director he works with.
Shortly before Cop Out was released I saw Kevin Smith live. He made several subtle hints that working with Bruce Willis was difficult, but never went as far as he does in these interviews. He also hawked the shit out of Cop Out, so that kind of pisses me off.
Don’t care, still love Bruce.
I gotta side with Bruce on this. Bruce Willis is Bruce Willis because he made himself Bruce Willis.
If Kevin Smith was a “visionary director” who might know better, that would be one thing. But Smith is a “Stand there. Say that.” director who has always counted on his actors elevating a scene beyond what was on the page.
MY 2nd choice for John McClane? John Leguizamo.
*lalalala* I can’t hear youuuu! Even my love for Dogma can’t make me acknowledge a slight against Bruce Willis, the love of my life. Respect John McClane, motherfucker
This movie was a fucking retarded shitpile. They could have have paid Bruce Willis with rape, pillage, and gold dubloons and he would have STILL fucked with Kevin Smith for being such a fat retarded baktag fuck.
Also, I like that I am easily more than 50-75 pounds heavier than Kevin Smith, and have NEVER had a problem on a flight. HA HA! FUCK YOU ASSHOLE! I am a fatter fuck than you but people hate you more for being a failboat and a shithead! Eat MY ass with a twist of lime and bacon!
Why doesn’t the nerdy fat kid like the popular jock?
I’m with Burnsy on this one (who also can’t hit his marks). Don’t care. It’s Bruce Willis. Somebody make a gif of him putting on sunglasses.
Kevin, you can’t expect an actor to suddenly change the way they are after one conversation. They’re not lesbians.
Watched Cop Out tonight. Not sure why. Tracy Morgan chews scenery like no one on earth, Willis does a pretty good job, but it still doesn’t keep me from wanting 90 minutes of my life back. I have no one to blame but me though.
Just saying though, for serious: Bruce Willis hit his marks enough in Sin City to accurately recreate the panels of comic books. Maybe this has a little more to do with Kevin Smith’s super-laid-back-in-his-mind-but-actually-pretty-fucking-lazy-sounding direction.
Not a gif of him putting on sunglasses, though I’d imagine he put them on just as someone snapped this picture: [chud.com]
My second choice for Bruce Willis? Michael Chiklis.
My second choice for Bruce Willis? Jacktion! You know which side of a blues harp to blow into, don’t you Jack?
Is that a euphemism, Peet?
Went to see one of those “Night With Kevin Smith” thingy’s just before Cop Out came out, and hedid some subtle bitching about Bruce Willis while all the while hawking the movie. The thing that amazes me is, as someone who comes across as pretty articulate, why does he write such horrible fucking dialogue?
I like Kevin Smith; he’s an overweight film director; so you could say he’s somewhat of an inspiration to me.
But Bruce Willis is Bruno; being an asshole is part of what makes him believable as an action star.
Kevin’s cut from an entirely different cloth; while Bruce was chiseled from stone.
So in summation; I wanna suck Bruce Willis off under an over pass while Kevin Smith eats a Meatball Parmesan sandwich and tugs one out.
I love a good publicity stunt…..I will definitely read the info for this movie when I’m channel surfing my Cinemax Package…
Chuck Norris’s PR Agent says he’s a delight to work with and for God’s sake will somebody call him already.
The problem with Bruce was that he read the script, and then acted accordingly.