
Ok, time for lunch orders. How many hot dogs do you want, Kevin?
It’s nothing new for Kevin Smith to be an outspoken lightning rod regarding his films or the film industry in general. Between his podcast, public appearances, interviews, Twitter, smoke signals, and skywriting, he’s gone out of his way to speak his mind about some of the things that annoy him about the process of making movies. So it’s really not that surprising that he’s making waves at Sundance with his words more than his movie, Red State.
To catch you up: Smith Tweeted something along the lines of “Hey you guys I’ma totally auction off this movie at Sundance.” A bunch of Hollywood execs were then all, “Hurr durr we liek buyin moviefilms. Ok see you soon bye.” Then Smith and the execs showed up in Utah, and the execs were like “Ok neat can we buy the moviefilm now? Now?” And then Kevin Smith was all, “Hold on, we’ll talk after I screen it.” The movie was screened and the Hollywood execs got their checkbooks out, but then Smith went on a rant about how the industry process sucked. The Hollywood execs sat there and were like, “Man this guy sure hates us. I can’t wait to work with him on his moviefilm.” But when it came time for the “auction,” Smith instead sold the film to himself for $20, and announced plans to self-distribute. Then the execs were all, “Why we no can buy moviefilm? I has a angersad,” and the journalists there to cover it were like, “You said auction that was not an auction. We hate your fat face, beardface.”
Then, to defend and explain himself, Kevin Smith took to Twitter and unleashed a 69 (haha, sex) Tweet manifesto, which some poor, poor person at Vulture compiled. I’ve posted it after the jump, and will attempt to break down its important points. I’ll do my best, but fair warning, I have horrific ADD.
In the Tweet that launched a thousand angry bloggers, I VERY specifically said ” … I plan to pick my distributor in the room — auction style…” Then, EVERYONE ELSE said I was selling the movie. But I never said that. Very specific wording. Then, I watched as lots of bloggers turned it into “He says he plans to sell the film in the room.” So, if you’re mad that I didn’t live up to a story that I actually really didn’t tell … well, that’s kinda my whole point about the press. Ta-da
Yeah. Stupid bloggers with their stupid blo… wait.
… I’m just reaching back to an old model from Hollywood’s glory days: we’re taking our show on the road. GONE WITH THE WIND (which this movie certainly ain’t) didn’t open on 2600 screens; it opened on one. And played there for awhile. Then packed up & moved to another screen in another city to play there for awhile. We’re compressing that process, of course, doing only one screening per night on the tour, but it’s their idea, not mine. And the highlight of my light last night was talking to Bob Weinstein at the party after the screening. As @TheJonGordon & I explained our plan, Bob said “You’re 4-walling. That’s what me & Harvey did in the beginning.” To which I said “That’s why we call it The Harvey Boys.” Then, in true Bob fashion, he instantly did the math on our Radio City Music Hall premiere to tell us we could have the highest per screen average ever. He saw the flick this morning & we spoke again. He loved it; said really nice things about me as a director. Then, in true Bob fashion, he added “If it were mine, I’d tell you take 10 minutes out.” It was awesome. It was like being recognized as an adult by your Dad.
It’s really weird that there’s a ‘p’ in raspberry, right? I always forget about it. Rasp-berry. Eh, I dunno.
But taking our show on the road isn’t a new idea. I’ve taken all of my movies on the road for promotional tours. Only difference is, this time around, we’re charging for tickets. And if that price is too high for you, don’t worry: you’ll be able to see the flick for a lot less on October 19th. But with this tour, our aim is to get financially whole. I want to use actual, recognizable math on our little $4mil flick. Once we clear $4mil (off the tours, the merch, the ViewAskew Garage Sale), we’re able to give our investors their money back. So long as we don’t spend on marketing, every penny after that becomes profit. No more of this “The movie cost $4mil to make but needs to earn $50mil at the box office to break even.” That ALWAYS bugged me: I’d got out of my way to make flicks for as little as possible, then watch folks spend more to market it.
This is a good point. Hollywood is run by idiots who throw money around willy nilly and then crap all over themselves when they have trouble making it back. “THIS MOVIE BOMBED, I BLAME ASHTON KUTCHER. PEOPLE HATE HIM. HIS CAREER IS OVER.” Well, it also “bombed” because you jackknifes dumped an extra $30 million plus into marketing it, and did it so poorly than even LESS people wanted to see the movie. It’s incompetence on a level that makes Chief Wiggum look like Columbo.
But that’s how the business works: EVERYBODY does that. It is the standard. And I’ve done it, too; for 9 films now. So after doing it the same way for 9 times, you start to think about how you’d do it differently: is it possible to sell a flick WITHOUT spending any of that money? With a budget so low, why not try? Sh-t, just to change it up a bit. For years, bloggers told me I was tired for doing so many Askewniverse flicks. You hear that enough, it sinks in. No artist wants to be called tired, y’know?
So with only 1 flick left that I want to make, I figure why NOT gamble a bit. Because, like I said: if this works out the way we’re hoping, we’ll have a model we can use with not only HIT SOMEBODY, but any SModcast Pictures we make after it — which would be YOUR flicks, not mine. I’ve told my stories in film already & I get to tell way more inventive stories every week on all the @SModcast Network shows. But I love being involved with flicks so I figure “Why not help OTHER cats get THEIR flicks out there.” If we can build SModcast Pictures into a brand — the way Harvey & Bob made the Miramax name stand for a specific kind of film — then it can become a kind of no-budget service label for flicks we feel fit our ethos or can’t find love elsewhere in the world.
You know what song I used to love? Mambo #5. Yeah, I said it.
Indie flicks need special handling, and what we’re doing with RedState is simply special-handling it ourselves. And, yes — I’m aware there’s lots of bile for me & the flick in the blogosphere right now. But there was lots of bile for me in the blogosphere last week, too. And last year. And the year before that. That was never gonna change. But here’s what I’ve spent the night & morning reading instead: the Twitter feed — where there’s been so much enthusiasm & youthful exuberance & zeal for the idea of self distribution, I’ll be honest: I’ve rolled a couple tears. I’ll tell you what I’ll never forget about Sundance 2011: as I left the stage last night, a couple 20-something dudes followed along in the hallway, saying the dug the flick. Then one of them nearly knocked me dead when he said, with all the earnestness & passion of indie film incarnate “You can do this.” And normally I’d say I was just stoned, but since I was THC-free that day, I tell you this not from a stoner, “Hey, maaaann … ” free association, but as something that – in that brief moment — was about as real as raincoats: that kid was a thinner, better-looking, more-pussy-getting version of me, circa ’94. And 1994 didn’t say “You f-cking idiot! Do what everyone else does and sell your flick & spend to open it!” 1994 kinda said “Skate, f-cker … ” knowing full-well that if I pull this off, it’s gonna be easier for him to get HIS flicks out there. That moment meant the world to me; I’ll take it to my grave.
… a little bit of Monica in my life, a little bit of Erica by my side, a little bit of Rita’s all I need, a little bit of Tina’s what I see…
I was telling @JenSchwalbach this morning: it’s almost as if, 17 years ago, I came to this same place, and two roads diverged in a yellow wood. Cliche, I know – just lemme finish. So I chose a path that made ALL the difference. And 17 years later, this festival, universe, they all blessed (or possibly cursed) me with the chance of a lifetime: take the OTHER road instead to see what happens. And NOBODY can fault me for doing so, because a) I’m doing it incredibly financially responsibly, b) I’m not asking for help from anyone but the cats who wanna either see this flick or see this model work. c) I did it as entertainingly as possible. For years, I’ve read “He’s no filmmaker.” Turns out they were right: I’m more of an entertainer. And any entertainer worth their salt goes out on the road with their art. There was a Tweet last night that called SModcastPictures and the RedStateTour “punk rock filmmaking”. I LOVED that.
… the trumpet… THE TRUMPET!
(*turns music way up, searches in closet for that one Lou Bega style hat, puts it on, begins dancing*)
I co-opted Jello Biafra’s “Don’t hate the media; become the media” for our RedStatement. But what I dug most about the sentiment? It made me feel like I was 23 again. Folks can write what they like, but as an artist, I’m cosmically invigorated & full of piss & vinegar. THAT’S where bold art comes from. They bitched at me for being complacent or for making something as sappy & mainstream. Everything about RedState is the opposite of that… and they’re still bitching. And if this was still 1994, and the only way I could find out what people thought of what we did/are doing was by reading reviews or articles, I’d feel bummed that there wasn’t more support from a media that bitches about lameness/sameness all the time. But it’s 2011 – and via @Twitter, I can INSTANTLY find out how the people who wanna come see the flick or support the cause actually feel.
(*practices that move where you roll a hat up your arm and onto your head for 30 minutes*)
(*never succeeds*)
And I can’t thank you all enough for what I’ve read on this feed all night & today. And I apologize to every Tweeter over the course of the last few months who ever Tweeted “Why don’t you just distribute it yourself?” It was SO hard to not respond with “THAT’S THE PLAN, BITCHES!” And you KNOW how hard it is for me to keep my trap shut about ANYTHING. But four days into shooting, @TheJonGordon & I had a serious talk about taking it out ourselves; the possibility of building & BUILDING, instead of building & selling. Our point was this: we were having SO much fun answering to no one, creating the life of the film every day, not following a traditional structure. And I’ll be honest: fun’s hard to come by in this business, because it IS a business. There’s lots of money at play. People tend to get brutally serious about sh-t that doesn’t matter. Original ideas get curbed in favor of the tried & true. As risky as folks are with millions of dollars, the risk usually doesn’t extend to the flicks, and why should it: there’s safety & financial security or prosperity in the familiar. @TheJonGordon & I were both kinda at wit’s end with the rigidity of the old way, but RedState brought back the fun.
(*looks up Lou Bega on Wikipedia, reads this sentence: “Bega was the only artist, ever, to be asked to sing a song twice on Germany’s headlining show “Wetten, dass..?’”*)
EVER?! Well, color me impressed.
Everything about the way we’re going about things forces us to be MORE creative, and it feels awesome just to be doing the same thing differently for a change. It’s reinvigorated us — like when Rooster stabs the horse in the leg in TRUE GRIT: RedState is making us run like we’ve never run before. And as someone who wants to be an artist, it’s just the shot in the ass (or the jab in the leg) that I needed. I’m INDIE again — maybe for the first time, even. It’s frightening & thrilling. My heart’s been racing all weekend. I feel alive! Young! Punk Rock! I feel like Bill Murray at the end of SCROOGED. There’s a Taoist proverb that’s been rolling around my head since we pulled into Sundance, and it kind of sums up this weekend for me: “To be great is to go on. To go on is to go far. To go far is to return.” Well, I’ve now returned … and I’m ready to do it all over again.
Wait. I was doing something… oh yeah, Kevin Smith! Anyway, I agree with most of his points on this, and it’s a pretty cool idea if nothing else. The Hollywood system is a mess, and I like the idea of someone at least trying to do something about it, rather than shrugging his shoulders and casting Bradley Cooper and Katherine Heigl in Action Love: A Love Story. With Action. So good on you, Kevin. But maybe next time, instead of posting like 7000 words in people’s Twitter timelines, just write “YO HOLLYWOOD” and post this GIF.




You’re lucky to have ADD. I only have AD.
I also have no idea what that means.
Oh, also . . . TLDR.
… said really nice things about me as a director.
Like, “Those two directors chairs you sit in don’t make your ass look fat at all.”
“You’re far less of a failure as a director than as a human being.”
“I suppose you’re not that self-involved, for a director.”
“Your talent as a director is almost as great as your gravitational field, fatty.”
Kevin Smith: I’ll show them. I’ll show them ALL
(very slowly)
How dare you suggest that my beloved Bradley Cooper would work with Heigl.
Oh man, I’m so glad that he got moral support to do something different than other people have done it for the sole purpose of proving that it can be done while backhandedly also proving that tried-and-true methods are tried-and-true because they’re more successful.
Who knew he could find people with that kind of attitude at Sundance?
I have ED, insofar as this much thought about Kevin Smith means I’ll never have another erection.
/Actually I like the pudgy bastard, have enjoyed many of his movies and I think he interacts with his fans in a laudable way, but dude is loquacious. If he tried to write a haiku it would make David Foster Wallace look like Sappho (without all the lez stuff).
Aaaand now I’ve got “Mambo No. 5″ stuck in my head.
kevin smith will see this article… he knows
Yeah, cause 7000 tweeted words is so “punk rock”! K Smiff is one bloated ass bloviating bovine who should be forced to eat his own beard!
is the film any good though?
The last time I read anything this long I was proofreading my diary entry about a girl I dated twice in college. Adults need to edit their thoughts, and I’m much better off without her. *plays Enya mix cassette, cuts self*
why does a guy who hasn’t made a movie that isn’t crap since 1997 constantly ranting and whining about the movie industry? if he spent as much time working on films as he does bitching about them, he and the audience would be happier. it’s like hearing my obese doctor lecture me about my diabetes. or hearing kevin smith do it.
I don’t like silent bobs. I prefer that she be crying.
Michael Bay and James Cameron caution that this is what happens when you have Fuck-You money and don’t spend it on expensive hookers and exploding endangered animals.
Kevin Smith doesn’t know when to shut his piehole.
(Because he’s fat and he talks too much.)
Scrolled through saw lots of CAPS, and the name Jello Biafra. My summary? I guess I’ll skip this Kevin Smith movie too.
He’s not going to fly Southwest to promote this tour, is he?
Yeah, bloggers. Why would you think his implication that he was going to auction off the distribution rights meant that he was going to sell the distribution rights? Fucking media.
So now how does he get it out on video ?
Circulating VHS-copies through the mail, the way God intended.
Meanwhile ‘Paul Blart: The Man Who Cried Fart’ will make four times as much as ‘Red State’.
The unedited version of this rant will appear as an easter egg on An Evening With Kevin Smith 5: Smell My Farts.
Punk Rock: Saying ‘flick’ repeatedly instead of ‘movie’ or ‘film.’ Trust me*.
(*Puts on NOFX shirt, starts chanting ‘Oi! Oi!’)
He’s like the Orson Welles of film.
Will someone please put Kevin Smith in a time out? He is a fat, beardface, whiny baby. A baby that needs to go in the corner. I said it.
Stak, are you my grandpa?
On a serious note, I’ve never seen fingers as fat as they are long before. Has he ever considered being a carnival freak?
They see him bloggin’
They Hatin’
Guerrero mambo’s but he’s Right & Wordy
“as an artist, I’m cosmically invigorated & full of piss & vinegar.”
But mostly full of donuts and creme.
On a related note: Taco Bell plans countersuit over ground beef.
Looks like I picked the right week to unfollow Kevin Smith on Twitter. Jesus. Have a cup of tea or something.