The NY Press’s Armond White is the real deal, the lyrical gangsta Snow falsely claimed to be in his 1992 super hit “Informer,” from the seminal album “12 Inches of Snow.”* But because of White’s unpopular opinions and easily-parodied intellectual slam poetry, the internet frequently uses him as its whipping boy. What a bunch of jerks. Naturally, Armond White has issued a lengthy response, accusing people like me (sort of) of being “crude interlopers of a once august profession.” Fear not for my honor, friends, for his mouth’s impudence shall soon earn his face the sting of my white glove! But first, let’s hear what he had to say (edited for length, obviously):
All this distortion owes to what’s been called film culture’s “democratization,” a misleading term for how the expansion of film discussion beyond journalism’s art pages and all over the Internet has weakened our cultural foundation and decentered aesthetic and political authority. As uncredentialed experts multiply and flounder, we’re all victimized by hype. [...] Professional dignity is the last thing Internetters respect. Their loudmouth enmity and lack of knowledge are so overwhelming that it is imperative to put this crisis in perspective.
BIG POPPA HAS NO TIME FOR Y’ALL RIFF RAFF! NOW KISS A-DUB’S RINGS, BIATCH!
What has not received widespread attention is the total disregard for interpreting or understanding a film. Useless clamor distracts from the fact that the decline of intelligence regarding popular culture has become routine; fanboy enthusiasm has replaced reflection.
Y’ALL MOTHERF***RS WOULD LIKE REFLECTION MORE IF YOU SAW A FACE AS PRETTY AS A-DUBS’ IN THE MIRROR, SKEET SKEET!
This summer’s most alarming movie event was watching the critical profession get drowned out by trendy aggregate websites. Reviews of blockbuster films Toy Story 3 and Inception by established professional film critics (myself particularly) received a record number of largely intemperate posts on the RottenTomatoes site, which then expanded into wholesale Internet attacks by agitated fanboys and upstart blogs. A new model of cultural response is taking over: criticism of criticism—and critics—as a pointless, snaky substitute for examining films themselves.
AIN’T NO SNAKE A SNAKY SUBSTITUTE FOR THE SNAKE IN A-DUBS’ DRAWERS! DEEEEZ NUTS!
This generation has never been affected by lively, impassioned, informed criticism, only by Hollywood hype, which guides their naive habit of buying and buying movies. And job-panicky critics have helped this dumbing-down by going along, responding to movies like thrill-hungry teenagers, colluding with commercialism. They are allied with blockbusters that, by the very impersonal nature of blockbusters, leave fanboys feeling anomic, running to the Internet, screaming for attention. Ignorant of their own minds, they throw brickbats and bad names at any professional opinion that brings attention to their own susceptibility.
I’M A DROP AN ANOMIC BOMB ON YO *SS FROM MY FLYING THESAURUS! I’M RICH, BIATCH!
Now, moviewatchers—including some scared reviewers—have lost faith in journalistic criticism as a trustworthy source of information or judgment.
The Internet’s free-for-all and anonymity fosters gullibility and incivility even among those who consider themselves film-lovers. And when film discourse becomes discourteous, mindlessness take its revenge on reason. This critic’s nightmare is a movie huckster’s dream. It demeans us all.
INCEPTION SUCKS! TAKERS RULES! STOP CLOWNIN’ YOSELF!
Okay, okay, enough parody. Allow me to retort.
As always, there’s a ton of truth in what Armond White says. That’s part of why I enjoy talking about him so much. His truths are just so couched in hypocrisy, pretension, and old-fart elitist contrarianism that people are quick to respond to that. Which is to say, the attacks on him are mostly his fault. Don’t troll a troll, playa.
I do agree that the notion that you can break all movies down into a percentage of “good” and “bad,” and that that’s some how more meaningful than a single, well-expressed opinion is ridiculous, but I would argue most us are already aware of that. That doesn’t mean it’s not still fun to talk about. I also agree that the cozy relationship between Hollywood marketing and people allowed to call themselves “critics” has created a lot of a-holes like Pete Hammond who have turned what was supposed to be a fun discussion into a race to see who can spout the most idiotic one-liners that will go on the poster. I’m convinced that guy writes his reviews based on the trailer. But keep in mind, he came from print.
You say moviegoers have lost faith in journalistic criticism, but why do you think that happened, Armond? Wouldn’t you say it might be partly because the so-called intellectuals of the old guard wanted so badly to distinguish themselves from the masses that they’d stoop to writing thousand-word, devil’s advocate pieces about why Transformers 2 is “opulent” and Toy Story 3 is “crass commercialism,” instead of responding to the actual work? Is that really erudite analysis, or is it a critic forcing his audience to help him work through his own insecurities? Don’t write a deliberately provocative piece and then complain when people find it entertaining.
As for us online critics (or comedians, such as the case may be), yes, our discourse is different from yours. Many of us write the way we would talk, or even value communication over scholarly peacocking. But do you really think mainstream print media (or in your case, alternative print media) is any more a formula for meritocracy than the formula for whose voice cuts through the cacophony online? Does time spent fetching coffee for editors and copy editing obituaries really make a person a better writer than time spent, say, writing? I don’t know the answer to this, because, as you’ve said, I’m just an ignorant, uncredentialed, loudmouthed, discourteous, gullible, glib, juvenile, ugly, undignified upstart from the lunatic fringe who insists on insulting his peers like some sort of cave creature. But I’m hoping you in all your dignified professional wisdom as the Chairman of the New York Film Critics Circle do. So if you can enlighten us, please fax your answer to www.suckmynutsArmondWhite.com, and in the meantime, I’ll be photoshopping Keanu Reeves eating a cupcake into pictures of dogs wearing hats.
Sincerely,
Vince Mancini
*Correction: It was Ini Kamoze in “Here Comes the Hot Stepper” from ’94. I am so very ashamed.


I dunno, Armond makes it seem like a February profession.
The Plaid has spoken.
Tits of GTFO, Armond.
Be honest. Which sounds more silly?
“And when film discourse becomes discourteous, mindlessness take its revenge on reason.”
-or-
“Because my step father tried to rape me. And he’s a werewolf.”
Armond believes that Lobster Dog and Birthday Dog don’t possess the propostitude or megalophilliance of Douchedog.
Yes, yes…all fine points, Mr. White. But please, can you show me on the doll where the werewolf raped you?
Hey Armond: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Bitch.
“Scholarly Peacocking” was the charge filed against my old debate team coach. I stayed after school a lot.
At least Pauline Kael had a vagina.
Ini Kimoze, in “Here Come the Hot Stepper”, claimed to be a lyrical gangsta. Not sure that snow did
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Luke Walton just threw down a tomahawk
FUCK, MY IGNORANCE OF EARLY 90S HIP HOP HAS BETRAYED ME!
(*slits wrists, turns up Arrested Development record*)
Well, at least he likes bloggers. He did say that, right? I had some trouble following his message.
I like to read Vince’s all-caps retorts after the block quotes as if they were coming from C-Tates acting as Armond White’s hype man
Does he know that he’s more of a film theorist than film critic and that there is a difference. Most people don’t want to read about the political implications of a film, they want to know if it’s good or bad, hence the rise of the ‘tomato meter’ and colloquial internet reviewers. If I want to read film theory, I’ll pick up Sight and Sound (which I do, but the average movie goer, to which critics should aim their writing, won’t). In closing, Armond White loves himself so much that he probably writes his reviews, while nude, flexing in front of a mirror Patrick Bateman style.
I’d like to request an entire Frotcast in which half of you speak as Nick Ring and the other half speak as Armond White.
And when film discourse becomes discourteous, mindlessness take its revenge on reason.
Mindlessness usually takes revenge on my reason after the 4th or 5th Four Loko. At least, that’s how I justify all the dead hookers.
I think we should just leave him alone so that he can find love with Linda Hamilton in his secret lair.
“Judge, i had to choke those hookers. Their discourse on Resident Evil had become discourteous and shit!”
MMmmmmm ……might work.
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Wow, very disappointing.
When it comes to Rotten Tomatoes, Armond White has sour grapes.
suckmynutsarmondwhite.tumblr.com
And he’s a werewolf.
I don’t know what generation he’s referring to, but I’ll tell you what I certainly don’t respond to:
Self-important, pretentious and pissy film journalists who need to spend week after week justifying their english degree by turning their film review column into a showcase for their vocabulary and how much more ‘informed’ they are than the ignorant masses.
This is like me hating cholos.
Translation: Yes, I do spend most of my day staring up my own fascinating ass.
great fucking post. classic.
Armond White is falling victim to the Hipster Conundrum. Being unique is lonely and being alone is worse than measuring your dick against society’s.
God, what an asshole. He has inspired me though to look for a writer called Sean Macaulay, whose work for The Times I used to enjoy reading. Archives here: [tinyurl.com]
Found him here: [www.thedailybeast.com] Nice piece on Goodfellas.
If I remembered the login for Ini Kimoze I would totally follow that up. BTW, this was his best song: [tinyurl.com]
Armond White is simply stating his unbiased opinion that Norbit, Dance Flick, Next Day Air, First Sunday, How She Move, Takers, and Tyler Perry’s Why Did I Get Married are all better than this trash. He sure is White.
Vinny, His boy, that post was so sexy even Kahless stopped banging his Horde of Whores to rub one out to it.
I’m just an ignorant, uncredentialed, loudmouthed, discourteous, gullible, glib, juvenile, ugly, undignified upstart from the lunatic fringe who insists on insulting his peers like some sort of cave creature.
You forgot “half-Wop.”
How does http://www.suckmynutsArmondWhite.com not exist yet? Make it happen!
Mick, how about a little sensitivity? They prefer Wopper Jr.
Dear Mr. White,
tl;dr
Jirish, never stop being His /b/ buddy.
the internet frequently uses him as its whipping boy
What a coincidence! That sounds exactly like how my plantation-owning great-grandfather used his! The world these days… From pickin’ greens, to pickin’ out movies you like.
Armond White gives film a 6.8 out of ten.
Michael Bay brought it up to a 9, but the likes of Hitchcock, Kubrick, D.W. Griffith and of course Orson Welles had to bring it down. 2001: A Space Odyssey can’t hold a candle to the opulence of Transformer’s 2. Or Megan Fox’s breasts.
He talks the Black Pygmalion.
No worries Fek! I’m here for you.
If fact, now that I think about it, Armond White and I might even be related. (*See last comment*)
When he’s done with his career as a movie critic, he should create a “Crap-terion Collection” of movies- someone needs to archive and provide insightful commentary on landmark movies like Mr. 3000, Dance Flick , and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Ugh.
This rivalry has so much potential- I hope it turns out that Armond White owns a painted, windowless van.
Is that banner image a spoiler? It looks like Mark Zuckerberg just brought peace to the Koreas.
All fun and games until Ben Lyons leads an ‘inception’ into Armond’s dreams with the help of Pete Hammonds. Then he’ll really love “Norbit”.
*puts on serious hat*
Vince, I know filmdrunk’s primary appeal is the dick and fart jokes, but I stay because you’re a damn good writer (and Vince Vaughan eating an ice cream cone gets me every time).