WORKING AT DREAMWORKS SOUNDS FUN
07.11.08
In this post from a writer’s forum (dug up by Variety blogger Anne Thompson), an anonymous writer describing himself as an uncredited screenwriter on Kung Fu Panda has a lot of fun things to say about what it’s like working at Dreamworks. It’s very reminiscent of some of our friend Allan Weisbecker’s experiences as a screenwriter, full of non-writers giving writers really helpful advice and such. From here on out, I’ll just let him or her speak for him/herself, because he/she’s pretty good at it. It’s a lot of words, but worth it.
My hats off to anyone that can write a Dreamworks Animation film. They have a unique process.
First they storyboard the entire film. That is the first step. Not kidding. No writers, no script, just a story, and an entire film drawn on pieces of paper.
Then Katzenberg watches an animatic of the boards and says, surprisingly, "this needs a lot of work. You have a month."
Then they hire their first writer.
And spend that month changing as much of the storyboards as they can, which is about 20 to 30 percent.
If the 30 percent change isn’t the right kind of change, people get fired. Maybe the director, maybe the writer, maybe both.
Sometimes, only the writer gets fired and an additional director is hired to help out. It all depends on who is better – at pointing a finger with one hand while covering their own ass with the other.
I came in about four writers into the process. It’s kind of hard to write a "better" scene than the last writer when the rules are that you can only change 30 percent of each scene or completely change 30 percent of the scenes, per Katzenberg screening. So, for instance, in this scene, the panda comes up a flight of stairs carrying a bucket of water, slips on a banana peel, says something to two geese and does an air guitar. The good news? There can be anything in the bucket. Your mission: make the movie better.
It’s harder than it sounds. Especially when the larger "bucket" that the movie is contained in cannot change: the fact that the story has to be about a panda who is informed he is the chosen one, destined to …beat up… a guy who has escaped from prison and who is spending the entire movie walking to town, in order to…try to beat him up, because that’s the prophecy. And I won’t spoil the movie, but the bad guy doesn’t win. Because he’s not destined to. But just to make sure he doesn’t win, and because there’s 70 minutes of time to kill before he gets there on foot, the panda is trained in the martial arts. it’s kind of like Karate Kid, but if Mister Miyogi had long ago banished the Kobras and was running the karate tournament.
That resonates, right? We’ve all been in that situation. Oh, yeah, but we weren’t the "panda." We were the "bad" guys, walking from Nazareth to Jerusalem, hoping to help people, only to get nailed to a fucking cross by the "good" guys. For instance, I had this job once at Dreamworks Animation…
I tried to divide my time there between the tasks of writing 30 percent of scenes, being hazed by storyboard artists because I didn’t know how to do 30 percent of my job, yet, and explaining to the producers that Messianic myths (like The Matrix, which seemed to have a slight impact on their story) usually resonate because in the beginning of the story, things are bad, not good, and the good guy is usually the one overcoming insurmoutable odds and attempting to reclaim something from systems that have the magical ability to beat the living shit out of them no mater what they do.
I said, could we please dedicate this month’s 30 percent change to making the bad guy be the ruler of the town, and the prophecy is that this panda is supposed to dethrone him.
Well, the prison scene is already drawn. And Jeffrey really likes it.
All right, can we make it like Demolition Man or Austin Powers or Cat Ballou, have the bad guy break out and everyone’s panicking and they go and get the guy that according to legend is the biggest bad ass, but he’s out of shape, out of his element and kind of a dick.
Hmmm, okay, but in that case, why is he coming up a flight of stairs, and what’s in the bucket?
I don’t know. There’s food in the bucket, because he loves food so much, and …he keeps his food in the basement, and he’s coming up to answer the door because the stork is knocking at it and beseeching him to be a hero.
Well, the stork never knocks on a door, though. And Jeffrey likes the stork not knocking on doors.
So we quit. Actually, I believe we were fired.
They do this cycle like 30 times and the end result is a movie created over three years by 7 terrified directors and 20 pissed off writers, none of whom get any back end because it’s an "animated" film, therefore no matter how bad it is, it turns like an 8,000 percent profit, and they make another one and another one and another one until Katzenberg is finally dead at the age of 117 because he uses all the money he saves to rejuvinate his body with the blood of poor people who die at the age of 50 because their hearts got clogged while eating Lion King Meals.
Which, honestly, sounds like the beginning of a great story. If someone would come along and blow up the whole god damn building and then piss on the rubble.
Unfortunately, it’s real life, and the rich guy is writing the story, so the stories are about rich people beating the shit out of everyone who wants the building blown up.
Which, Katzenberg assured me, is a story that’s been told from the beginning of time. And he told me I should get this book by Ted Kopell and Joseph Campbell called Hero of a Thousand Journeys or Something. Actually, he offered, because he liked me so much in our first meeting, to have his people send me a copy. To help me write his movie.
And I said "oh, that sounds great," because I had been coached for that meeting by the directors and producers, and one of the rules was that if Jeffrey said anything about story structure or Joseph Campbell, I was supposed to pretend I’d never heard of him.
Not kidding. Not exaggerating. Except for the Ted Kopell part.
Anwyays, 86% on Rotten Tomatoes, sounds like another hit. I hope there’s a shot where the panda leaps in the air and it freezes and orbits him. The storyboard guys love that stuff. And it’s their movie. I was under foot.
Oh, and I don’t know about Rob, but the reason I’m not credited on imdb is because I emailed imdb and pretended I had never heard of Kung Fu Panda. I figured I owed that to Campbell.
I know I’m a little biased and perhaps I generalize, but business execs are idiots and should never be in charge of anything. All they know how to do is see a good idea make money and go "Hey, we should do that!" Then they copy it, even if the first idea was creating an inexhaustible energy source. It worked the first time, right? Why wouldn’t it work again! Anyway, I know stuff like this because I had a job once.
[via RopeofSilicon]

Listen, as a writer I’ll always support the cause, but when the phrase "All right, can we make it like Demolition Man or Austin Powers or Cat Ballou…" is used, all rights to complain are therein forfeited.
Sound like The Great White Hype, without the merlot brougham.
I hate to take the side of a studio over a writer, but damn if all of those people who were used and thrown out didn’t end up coming up with a good movie.
For the record, making the bad guy the ruler of the town would not have made the movie better, it would have made it worse.
That was a great story! Tell it again, Daddy FilmDrunk! And this time, give the writer a machete and this "Katzenberg" fellow a funny hat. Jews wear funny hats, right?
*lights cigar with thousand dollar bill*
So was this guy able to make a cell phone call on a plane, or what?
Also, call me a stickler for detail, but shouldn’t you see a gigantic fucking red flag when the studio tells you that you’ll be an uncredited writer? That’s like not letting the girl see you masturbate outside her window.
I would like to make this story 30% shorter.
no matter how bad it is, it turns like an 8,000 percent profit, and they make another one and another one and another one until Katzenberg is finally dead at the age of 117 because he uses all the money he saves to rejuvinate his body with the blood of poor people who die at the age of 50 because their hearts got clogged while eating Lion King Meals.
Lance…did you write this part???
The best thing I ever wrote was a letter to Roxanne, my 3rd grade crush, that said "Do you like me?" and it had a "yes" box to check and a "no? well fuck you, bitch" box to check.
I used to see gigantic red flags everywhere… and then I moved out of China.
He should have put some ducks in the bucket. Ducks always get a laugh. Poor writer, i bet all he got for his troubles was a fortune.
And with that Drunkards, I give you NO POON AFTERNOON!!!!!!
I bet this guy gives ALL the bitches a deadline.
Easy. Panda comes up the stairs carrying a bucket, slips on a banana peel, spills bucket FULL OF PANDA SEMEN, sees two geese and says "Panda Chowder! Come and get it, cuntface" and plays air guitar.
Dude, Beek’s here!
Duke-Epic
I’m betting the first writer was fired because he told them that Jack Black is a terrible fucking choice for the main character.
I just read that writer’s list of complaints about getting paid to draw talking animals to the dude outside working on our sewerline. He seemed real sympathetic right up to the point where he sprayed me with liquid fecal matter.
If I were a pissed off writer at Dreamworks, I bet a good revenge would be to eat the storyboards.
"Where is the hilarious scene where the smarmy frog tells the uppity raccoon how to properly catch a fly?"
"Somewhere in my lower intestine. Let’s see how 30% of it looks in the toilet bowl afterwards."
Having only a finite amount of reading capacity and hoping that the latest issue of BBW and Lovin’ It is in my mailbox at home, could someone give me the Cliff’s Notes version of this post?
Good point, wangchung. The panda comes up the stairs carrying a bucket of LIQUID FECAL MATTER, slips on a banana peel, spills the bucket on the floor then looks at two geese and says "My Liquified Shit, come and get it while it’s hot, cuntface".
Much better.
Duke, no air guitar, no dice.
Are the two pandas in teh banner pic having a farting contest? If so, the big guy clearly won, it shot him off the ground! Dor sho gha!
I could never be a writer, because everything I write ends with "This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds".
could someone give me the Cliff’s Notes version of this post?
I hate Jews! *plays air guitar*
Fek, I think that one’s a ‘Coon, not a Panda
I’m not sure you can really get away with a cartoon panda calling everybody "Cuntface". How about "Shitsucker"?
The panda’s a near?
Ah! Thanks for bringing that up, Pauly! It’s time for "Know Your Pandas!", today’s teacher, The Mighty Fek’lhr:
It’s a Red Panda.
Tune in next week for, "Know Your Fat Lesbian Truckstop Druggie Whores"!
i just noticed the panda is wearing pants LOL pandas don’t wear clothes silly
Oh, how I miss Looney Toons…
Panda walks up stairs, a hunter blasts him in the face with a double-barrel shot gun. Panda picks up his severed head, points it at the hunter and makes some wise-ass remark like "Hey you fucking asshat – that was my God Damned FACE!’
pandas don’t wear clothes silly
And muppets do?
Honestly, Fek. I just wanted to say Coon.
and jigga boo too
I knew this kid that pronounced semen like "cement-but-without-the-’T'". He was a crossdresser and is dead now. (All true!)
What the fuck ever, you ignorant spic!!!!!!!!
The panda only calls the geese cuntface. He has other unique nicknames for the other cartoon animals. For example, he calls the squirrel "chink cocksucker" and the Koi fish "shiteater"..
Hey guys, my boss just borrowed my computer, what did I miss………..
…
DOR SHO GHA!
I’m no Podiatrist, but I’m pretty sure Kung Fu Panda wouldn’t be allowed into military service.
My wife just handed me a stack of bills from the mailbox. I told her I ain’t giving nobody a fucking dime today unless it’s a mexican bringing me margaritas. I didn’t call her cuntface. I called her "urine cakes". Cuntface is what I call her mother.
This is seriously a sausage fest in here today. It’s Single Poon Afternoon.
Somehow, they managed to piece together a movie that was a metaphor meaning "If you’re a vampire that’s in love with a chick that won’t let you bone her, you should bite her in the fucking face and suck out all of her blood"
The panda carrying the bucket of apples up the stairs is what tipped me off.
I’d like to think the hedgehog is known as "Prickfest". I’d like to, but just can’t bring myself to do so. Ahso.
Don’t worry, B.K. Just pretend you’re a guy. That’s what chodin does.
Hey, speaking of Twilight jokes that just popped into my head. You know what you call an Italian vampire that glitters in the sunlight?
Day-Glow
But really, that semen crossdressing kid is really dead.
I’m sure all the kids strapped to their wheelchairs really appreciated the work poured into this flick. They probably didn’t understand the bucket part though, because all "their" buckets were filled with shit and piss.Â
The panda comes up the stairs carrying a bucket of CHINK VOMIT, slips on a banana peel, spills the CHINK VOMIT, looks at two geese and says "Drink it. Tastes better than your polluted communist water does, cuntface" and does air guitar.
That’s right B.K. – just need some glue and pubes on your face. Instant MAN.
You know what you call an Italian vampire that glitters in the sunlight? Day-Glow
You know what you call a black guy on speed? Hyper-color
P.S. See you all at the rally on Sunday, make sure the eyeholes on your robes allow for proper line of sight during the cross burning
I mean,
I want to volunteer some of the glue for that.
Jesus comes up the stairs carrying a bucket of wine, slips on a banana peel but doesn’t fall down or spill the bucket, looks at 2 geese and says "Fuck you, Jews" and does air guitar.
The panda comes up the stairs carrying a bucket of JEW BLOOD, slips on a banana peel, spills the JEW BLOOD, looks at two geese and says "Hail Hitler" and does air guitar.
The panda comes up the stairs carrying a bucket full of Eddie Van Halen’s teeth, slips on one of David Lee Roth’s roaches, spills the teeth, dos an air guitar, and screams "AIN’T TALKIN’ BOUT LOVE!" at the two geese.
p.s. I left the "e" out of "does" on purpose to combat those fucking Canucks who put extra "u"s in everything. Totally a political statement.
HAHAHA at EVH teeth!
The panda comes up the stairs carrying a bucket of…the writer stops mid sentence, thinks to himself "what the fuck am I doing with my life?" and then places gun to head.
The panda comes up the stairs carrying a bucket of AMNIOTIC FLUID, slips on a banana peel, spills the AMNIOTIC FLUID, looks at two geese and says "Christmas came early, cuntfaces" and does air guitar
The panda comes up the stairs carrying a bucket full of Eddie Van Halen’s teeth, slips on one of David Lee Roth’s roaches, spills the teeth, does an air guitar, and screams "
AIN’T TALKIN’ BOUT LOVE!MIGHT AS WELL JUMP!" at the two geese.Fixed.
The panda comes up the stairs carrying a bucket of PISS, slips on a banana peel, drinks bucket of PISS, looks at two geese and says "GRAPE DRANK, NIGGA!" and pantomimes jacking off which includes a cum-fling to the face.
Stephen Hawking thinks they should have rewritten 30% of the "comes up the stairs…" part.
*goes to pay Donkey for the correction*
*reaches into back pocket*
*realizes she forgot wallet*
*realizes she doesn’t carry a wallet*
*realizes that’s not her back pocket*
Lazy/shiftless panda comes shuffling up stairs carrying bucket of FRIED CHICKEN, slips on a DISCARDED JOB APPLICATION, spills bucket, looks at two geese and says "Good thing that bucket wasn’t full of crack cocaine" and plays air turntable.
See Fek! I told you he was a Coon!
MASSACHUSETTS MAN walks up stairs carrying bucket of BALLS, slips on REALIZATION THIS ISN’T A DIRTY LIMERICK, goes the fuck home.
Baby panda SKATEBOARDS down the ROAD and does a KICKFLIP, looks at Kung Fu Panda and says "I’m TOO COOL for Kung Fu, Dad… I wanna headspin!"
COMING SOON TO A THEATER NEAR YOU – KUNG FU PANDA 2: BREAKDANCIN’ ALL OVER THE RHYME SCHEME
Easy. Targ comes up the stairs carrying a bucket, slips on forshak, spills bucket FULL OF GAH DURCHFALL, sees two geese and says "Dor sho gha, yIntagh face!" and plays air ba’Sin.
Trust Him, this is hilarious on Grethor!
I can’t believe none of us have been banned/deleted at that EW/SATC page!
We were supposed to go to that page? I could add my two cents about Miranda and Steve.
Er… I mean, SEMI AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, GRR!
Panda comes up a flight of stairs carrying a BUCKET OF GOOSE SHIT, slips on a banana peel spills the bucket, looks at the geese and says "this is all your fault" and proceeds to brutally beat the geese with his shoe.
The panda hasn’t played air guitar yet because he’s still busy beating the geese with his shoe.
What the fuck is a "Miranda and Steve"? Sounds like an uppity Soho drink made from amaretto, cognac, and asbestos!
Elephant Man comes up a flight of stairs carrying a buck, stops to catch his breath, accidentally tilts head back and dies on stairs.
Now he does the air guitar, using one of the geese’s bills as a guitar pick as he rides their unconscious carcasses like a surfboard down the goose shit covered stairs as "Surfin Bird" plays in the background.
The Elephant Man loves bucks…he says deer are too gay to carry.
Nick Hogan’s best friend comes up flight of…nevermind.
You guys are all a bunch o’ weirdos.
Panda comes up a flight of stairs carrying a bucket of FILMDRUNK COMMENTS OF THE WEEK, slips on a banana peel, spills the bucket of comments all over the floor, looks at two geese and says "Why aren’t you laughing?" and the geese say "We’re not laughing because we’re reading these cryptic, unfunny internet comments you just dropped on the fucking floor. What do they mean? Are we missing something here? Can you draw us a diagram or give us some kind of a map with driving directions to the place where these things make sense?" The panda carefully considers what the geese have said, then proudly replies "Go fuck yourselves, cuntface" and does air guitar.
Hi Al. You look exceptionally radiant today. Have you been working out?
Jesus, this place emptied out faster than M.C. Hammer’s checkbook at the liquor store on Kwaanza.
To SJP Haters Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 05:21 PM EST
No matter what you think , SJP is richer, smarter and happier than you will ever be. Too bad your self-esteem is so low that you can’t do anything better w/ your time than hate on someone you don’t even know and is really one of the good people in Hollywood. Get a life people.
I guess she told us, huh?
I thought I warned you about messsing around in that old pet cemetary, bex.
In the wise words of Ben Franklin Washington, "Dis here playa ain’t hatin’ nothin’ but the game, mang". Sarah Jessica Parker is a witch made famous by other witches. I have no problem with any of that, just so long as she doesn’t ever attempt to trick me into getting inside a boiling cauldron to make stew out of me.
new up
Hey dumbass, animated movies are supposed to be written mainly using fucking storyboards.
The same can be said for my wet dreams, Guy_Who_Says_Fuck.