
Sometimes people ask my opinion about stuff. I like that. Saves me the trouble of trying to get their attention through shouting and stick-pokery. Anyway, since people often ask me to review stuff, I’ll now be trying to add reviews of stuff I’ve seen when I see it.
Full disclosure: I can count the number of musicals I’ve enjoyed on one hand… okay, I could count them on a stump because I can’t think of any. I just find the concept of characters expressing themselves through song a little… (hey, why not poetry or interpretive dance?) frou-frou.
Still, I was hoping Tim Burton’s take on a Steven Sondheim play about a wronged barber who slits the throat of anyone who looks at him funny might help change my mind. My love of revenge flicks is roughly equivalent to my hatred of musicals.
And, well… almost. Sweeney Todd seems like it’s probably a great play. The story of Benjamin Barker’s transformation from honest barber to serial killer (sort of a misanthropic Count of Monte Cristo with a straight razor – deliciously dark) is cleverly wrought and compelling – all the more so for someone who hasn’t seen the work in it’s original form. But I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t thinking, “Ugh, not another goddamned song…” every time the string section swelled. In fact, I think the ever-present, non-diegetic orchestra (the film often swaps chorus pieces from the play, leaving just the big band accompaniment, mixed way too loud) was the film’s biggest stumbling block.
The strings, the horns, the timpanis, the God knows whatses – they’re always there. Competing with the vocals during the songs and lurking during the quiet moments like an extra villain, you just want to shout, “Hey, can you shut the fuck up? I’m trying to watch a movie here!”
And outside of the clanging and the honking, it’s a fun flick. We know so much of the basic story – Sweeney comes back for revenge, slits throats, and grinds up his victims to make meat pies – that keeping us guessing is a challenge. Despite glossing over a few things (for instance, what was Barker accused of when he got sent away?) that it easily could’ve explained (I would gladly trade a courtroom scene setting up Barker’s banishment with, say, the one where Barker’s daughter sings to her parakeets, or where Sweeney sings a love song to his razor), the plot has enough nooks and crannies to carry it all the way through.
Its strength is that it never tries to make Sweeney seem like a nice guy. Sure, he wants justice on those who’ve wronged him, but he’s also not above kicking a few pigeons on his way to the courthouse, so to speak. That he takes his pain out on basically everyone gives the story a sense of reality amidst the camp.
From Sweeney on down, most of the characters are well played and a lot of fun. Helena Bonham Carter (Mrs. Tim Burton) is delightfully complicated as Mrs. Lovett, even if she can’t really sing and I couldn’t tell what the hell she was saying when she did. Alan Rickman plays Alan Rickman pretty competently, and Sacha Baron Cohen’s few minutes of screen time are probably the best of the movie – gratuitous man camel toe or no. Good child actors are tough to find, but Ed Sanders as Toby, Mrs. Lovett’s adopted son, is probably the best singer of the bunch. The expendable one is Sweeney’s daughter, who doesn’t do much besides sing songs to her parakeets and have yellow eyebrows (Jesus, those are creepy – is she supposed to be an albino?).
Verdict: Enjoyed the movie, still hate musicals. Hey, how about a non-musical adaptation of a musical? Now there’s an idea.



How about a musical adaptation of a non-musical? Eraserhead: The Musical. Old Yeller: The Musical. Shindler’s List: The Seussical.
I just Godwin’d this bitch. THUNDURSTCATS ARE GO!
Personally, I’d like to see the non-musical adaptation of West Side Story.
Oh, wait. That’s just Romeo and Juliet with Puerto Ricans.
You know what didn’t totally suck? Cloverfield!
I wrote a musical called "Dogs". It’s sort of like Andrew Lloyd Webber’s "Cats", only with people in dog suits. Songs included:
I don’t care if you like musicals or not, you’ll be singing that last one all the way home.
I loved sweeny todd, but I usually hate musicals too. I think the blood and cannibalism made up for it
Is there anything blood and cannibalism DOESN’T improve?
It was a bit mediocre. I can’t really get angry at it, but I can’t start a club where we all carry butter knives and pretend their straight razors and run around a field in some odd role-playing-game-fest with my University friends either…
Who am I kidding? I meant Univesity (imaginary) friends.
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Al, I think the dead hookers in everyone’s basements would disagree
Sweeney Todd was a complete rip-off of this late night movie I saw on showtime back in my adolescence. It was called "Annie Lee’s Meat Pies". There was nudity, retards, and murder. Complete rip-off, and I base that on absolutely nothing.
I’ll be anxiously awaiting your review of Benders Big Score. Which I assume you haven’t seen. Just to be a dick.
Nom, I thought you wrote "Brenda’s Big Score" which sounds pornoriffic.
Anybody else find it strange that FilmStoner registered today and immediately posted something short and complimentary about a shitty film that opened this weekend? I think you can view his profile at DollarMenunaires.com.
JWiaHHH: you’ll be singing that last one all the way home.
I’ll put it on a mix disk with "Ass Charles"
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Lala, my new mission in life is to create that animated porno spoof. Everone, feel free to thank agv when I leave.
Can I have a credit Nom? Like "Based on the non-sequitor by LALALA"
oH, You’ll be listed as Executive ReProducer. It’s quite an honor, actually.
sorry RoboPanda, I guess I’m a major douchebag. I’ll have to work on that. I was just glad to see a Film Drunk review; although I couldn’t give less of a shit about Sweeney Todd. After all the Cloverfield shit on here, it would stand to see a review of that.
To be fair to FilmStoner, everything is much cooler when you’re high.
Oh. my. god. I just looked outside and there’s a blizzard going on. I’m glad my decision to stay in my pyjamas today has been justified by a large weather mass. If the weather had been pleasant, I would have had to find some semi-tard reason for my laziness.
I thought you wrote "Brenda’s Big Score"
No, that was last night, and it was fantastic.
sorry RoboPanda, I guess I’m a major douchebag. I’ll have to work on that. I was just glad to see a Film Drunk review; although I couldn’t give less of a shit about Sweeney Todd. After all the Cloverfield shit on here, it would stand to see a review of that.
I considered it the other night, but then I said fuck it. Good story, Hansel.
Yeah, she kicked my ass at Mario Kart.
Here’s my first film review for the new year
Sweeney Todd: Haven’t seen it
Cloverfield: Haven’t seen it
There Will Be Blood: Haven’t seen it
Bender’s Big Score: Movie of the year. Period. End of Review.
High Five erswi. Wait, have you actually seen it?
If one of you buys it for me I’ll review it. And it will of course be favorable because All Geektresses Love Futurama. It’s some sort of DNA encoding thing.
Better yet: find out how to get free screener copies of stuff. All I get at work is promotional material for musicals I don’t plan on seeing. Like this one!
Nice review. I had to look up "non-diegetic", um, and "orchestra" and "musical", plus a lot of other words, but it was worth it. Truth be told, as much as I hate the idea of musicals, I usually end up liking the ones I get dragged to (despite being an ardent practicing hetrosexual). The last musical I really hated was ‘Cats’ – the stage play. I liked cats until I saw that play. Now I kick them wherever I go.
I knew! I knew! I’m going to end up a former film student turned cynical film blogger…
This shows that you were once human and knew and read about film, not just made snarky comments about them.
"non-diegetic" – straight out of ANY film art/history book.
At least now I believe you know what you are talking about.
http://www.the217.com/wearemoviestars
I meant to say heterosexual, not hetro, just in case that means something else. Plus Helena Bonham Carter – possible the sexiest woman alive in ther heyday, and still very hot.
I’m going to end up a former film student turned cynical film blogger.
Hey, some of us are just cynical film blog commenters, thankyouverymuch.
The shakey-hand camera turdstain that was Cloverfield made a friend of mine throw up. While I was working on vomiting due to alcohol.
I liked Sweeney Todd when it was called Little Shop of Horrors. I just hope my weed plant doesn’t turn on me like that.
A barber killed my father once….once.
Hmmm. That was a pretty good comment, Rotwanchung. You’ve made a good first impression upon me. Thanks.
217, Film studies is for people who couldn’t get into the Film Production program. I always thought they were kind of sad, like they’d already failed before they’d started.
Film school, eh? Good for you, kid. I work in the business and am always glad to help out aspiring young film makers such as yourself. Look me up when you get to Hollywood and I’ll give you a ride back to the bus station.
Yeah Nom. I saw it. And yes, movie of the year is not an exaggeration. Of course me claiming my penis is incrediby huge. . . . that’s an exaggeration. But not by much.
Yes! That is now 3 people on here that believe that movie is the best one of the year. Elaborate as shit. I feel so….vindicated. Like god must feel after he shoots someone.
Yeah yeah, I was on the fence about using the phrase non-diegetic, but there really isn’t a way of saying it so succinctly. I guess it is a little… frou-frou.
And goddamnit Chargers, get your fucking shit together.
The Chargers never should have hired Shottenheimer after we were done with him.
There was nothing non-diegetic (lovely)about the movie i’ve just seen; Alien V Predator: Requiem. Does exactly what it says on the tin. I fucking loved it. Good to have a mean bastard Predator again, and a cheeky use of acid to cover the mess made by the xenomorphs.
If my abusive, alcoholic Dad were still alive, he wouldv’e beat my Mom in front of me with a full gallon of vodka had I gone and seen a film adaptaion of a musical. He was very passionate about his film adaptations….. and vodka.
I like musicals, but not watching them.
i saw 30 days of night last night, really kicked ass, liked what they did with the vampires, too bad all the goth on the imdb forums feel cheated because they made the vampires into animals instead of the depressed-handsome-gothic vampire, bunch of queers
I liked the vampire language I saw in the previews where "Gah? No Gah." in vampire translates to "God? No God."
NO GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
Hey, Bex, I like the handsome vampires. WITH BLOOD of course
Its strange that I do like musicals, but always thought the singing everything was absurd. My brain makes no sense.
Lance, can I ask you a question about the movie? My wife and I both adore Depp and Burton, and are "generally ok" with musicals (I liked Phantom of the Opera). Is this movie worth using my theater gift cerfticates I got for Xmas?
Dor sho gha! Some fucknut posted this on His blog!
The Hero You Hate said…
you get rid of the klingon talk and maybe some day you guys can get laid.
What a kotal!
WTF?? Durst dursty durst da durst DURST!
I’m still here for ya, Fek. And me thinks that it’s Hero that has trouble getting laid.
sorry lance…you used too manhy fucking words on this post. i skipped it.
anyways: anyone else drinking TEQUILA!?!?!?!?!?!
*cough* cocksuckers *cough
p.s. “manhy” = tequila, pussies!!!!
Hey Chodin. We thought you were dead.
hello!?!? hello!?!?!
I actually giggled at that Al. But then I realized its because I pictured some skinny guy in glasses saying it to me and then I broke his glasses. Then kicked his dog. Who was also wearing glasses.
hero…i hate you.
You just can’t get enough of us, huh Hero?
Hero’s comment made me think of that album of dogs barking Christmas carols. Which then made me think of Helena Bonham Carter in a musical. Ahhhh, it all makes sense now.
…or does it?
I know I can’t get enough of myself. My snozzberries taste like snozzberries!
Well i figured i’d let people who are talking about me, have a chance to talk to me.
hero,
fuck a dynamite stick.
sincerely,
chodin
That’s what all the people really are clamoring for.
Like Wii’s at Christmas.
And you snatch that dream from them, don’t you Jack?
I do what I can, erswizzle.
I got my Wii on the black market. Something like the Homeboy Shopping Network skit on In Living Color.
MO’MONEY MO’MONEY MO’MONEY
i always liked men on film, i give 30 days of night 3 snaps in a circle
also, just coming back from watching memoirs of a geisha with my girlfriend. I also give it 3 snaps in a circle, would’ve given it 4 if there would’ve been some more asian titties in it
I’d give Cloverfield a snap, but instead, I won’t do anything and pretend that savoring the mystery is an artistically meaningful substitute for providing ONE GODDAMN ANSWER!
Really Chung? I didn’t know Cloverfield was a French New Wave flick.
Monsieur Monstre, ne nous sommes-nous pas réunis l’année dernière chez Marienbad? Ne vous avez-vous pas dit laisseriez-vous votre mari et courrions-nous loin ensemble?
If you don’t know French cinema, that joke was fucking hilarious, by the way.
la sange et sur la branche
i just got off of work and half of you fuckers are greeting the new day. god i hate lance.
Nice Tango pic Dub! "Rambo is a ‘primative’" form the poorly dubbed TV verion.
RoboPanda, i recognize the Last Year in Marienbad reference, i’m sure the joke was very funny. Now, i’m going to be Captain Pedantic here but by la sange et sur la branche do you mean le singe est dans l’arbre?
la sange et sur la branche = Eddie Izzard reference, doing a joke in french then saying if you don’t know french, just know that it was hilarious
is that the monkey tree hahahaness?
Yes, it’s that routi- AHHHH I’M COVERED IN BEES!
new up
Yeah, knew about the Eddie Izzard gag, he’s a funny guy, sometimes. There’s a movie where he and that Joey from Friends dress up as women in wartime Germany. Absolute fucking toilet.
I never found Helena Bonham-Carter that attractive until she said that line in "Fight Club". you know the one.
Save Marla Singer!
"I haven’t been fucked that hard since grade school!"
Mais la souris est en dessous de la table, le chat est sur la chaise, et le singe…le singe est disparu!
Because the monkey had fucked off hadn’t he. . . . cuz he’s a monkey!
Parlant en français est prétentieux et masturbatore … AVEC LE SANG!!!
For deaf people, musicals are a lot like foreign films.